tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1242737748712580324.post1381722482538625289..comments2023-10-29T13:46:21.591+00:00Comments on An Atheist and a Christian: What the...?!The Christianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00069888191964376451noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1242737748712580324.post-76478951521985150732011-07-05T22:19:45.462+01:002011-07-05T22:19:45.462+01:00I think on the point of morality, we as people hav...I think on the point of morality, we as people have grown and developed to recognise what is right and wrong, and the contexts with which to practice them. We know neglecting our fellow man is bad and helping them within our realms of capability is the least we can do. We know integration is better for society than segregation because the latter is often a powderkeg for conflict. <br /><br />I think that perhaps a better point the video could put across is that a lot of people don't need to follow Jesus as a morality leader as we are capable in ourselves to recognise what is good or not. I'll admit there are some bits of the video where it did stretch analogies a little thinly and he did come across as quite unapologetically aggressive, but overall, I think that's the message we can take from the video - we don't need to look to a higher being for morality when we know ourselves what it means to be good.Leilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01303161563414073890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1242737748712580324.post-51163767528205589062011-07-05T05:17:16.670+01:002011-07-05T05:17:16.670+01:00Jesus wasn't really "divine" until h...Jesus wasn't really "divine" until he died. After he came back, he was truly part of god and no longer mortal. Before that, he was sinless... until he died. Then all the world's sins came crushing down and he spent three days (which could have felt more like three centuries) in hell.<br /><br />The point this gent was making was that Jesus' moral teachings weren't original, and his original teachings weren't moral. But he took the unmoral teachings out of context, singling them out, and then the unoriginal moral teachings... well, of course they were unoriginal. I started out saying that people tend to develop similar moral rights and such, it's not like anyone is going to say anything new.The Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00069888191964376451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1242737748712580324.post-27084228675185896122011-07-04T07:58:18.135+01:002011-07-04T07:58:18.135+01:00I think he is making the case that Jesus wasn'...I think he is making the case that Jesus wasn't divine. However, I can understand why his words would not uproot your faith. After all, many liberal Christians do not believe Jesus was divine or perfect.<br /><br />I find myself more interested in the fact that Christians tend not to live up to the best of Christ's teachings. Few really turn the other cheek for another blow or give double to the man who sues them. Likewise, not every Christian repents. Too many in my experience just say they are sorry but never change.<br /><br />But let you think I am picking on Christians, let me assure you I am not. Atheists do the same thing at times - not living up to the values we claim to hold. And it seems that sometimes we are way more interested in arguing about something than in learning from it and changing our behavior.<br /><br />Just proving that, once again, we are all far more alike than we are different.Skepticathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15052063346449616220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1242737748712580324.post-18067339268407429602011-07-01T16:41:40.301+01:002011-07-01T16:41:40.301+01:00Being fair...they can't eat Bibles either. >...Being fair...they can't eat Bibles either. >><br /><br />I think this highlights a debate that's going on in the atheist community right now: is it getting anyone anywhere when one side is pointing out only the good things about religion, and the other side is pointing out only how ridiculous its ideas are? It's just back-and-forth he-said-she-said at the minute.Mr. Horsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221373482084394884noreply@blogger.com